Category Archives: alt.scientology.war.history

History of Scientology on the Internet

A gentlemen named Tom Klemesrud, ran an ISP called Netcom, in Burbank California. Mr. Klemesrud’s ISP hosted the FIRST anti-cult BBS (dial-up Bulletin Board Service) in 1989. Meanwhile on America Online there was a busy anti-scn discussion area. Boxes of materials from Klemesrud’s BBS as well as from Cynthia Kisser’s anti-cult group went to Rich Behar the writer at Time Magazine to help create that huge cover story in TIME magazine.

 

The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power

Ruined lives. Lost fortunes. Federal crimes. Scientology poses as a religion but really is a ruthless global scam — and aiming for the mainstream.

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Read the article
“Scientology is quite likely the most ruthless, the most classically terroristic, the most litigious and the most lucrative cult the country has ever seen. No cult extracts more money from its members.”

In 1991 after the time magazine article above, a guy started the newsgroup alt religion scientology on USENET.  The big breakthrough happened in the fall of 1993, when AOL and other Internet Service Providers,  opened their gateways to the internet in August. It was described as “The fall that never ended”

Documents from court cases involving scientology started appearing on the net. The archives of an anti-cult group called FACTNet were made available on the net. New documents were being scanned,  and turned into text, and uploaded from cases all over the world, as were newspaper articles. Ex-members started posting their stories to this newsgroup. Recovering members and those harmed by scientology began to realize that what happened to them was not unique, that they were not alone!

In 1993 Scientology sued a an ex-member I knew when I was one of them, named Enid Vein for copyright.  During that litigation her cat was shot. She told me that scientology, in their settlement proposal demanded she never mention the murder of her cat.
She was forced to settle with them.
This infuriated me.

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Index on A2 lists at top of C/OUTLOOK

ENFORCING “TRUTH”
How the Scientologists try to
impose their version of the truth
on members, defectors—and on
journalists. Page C1

Then on Christmas days of 1993 the Washington Post ran this article on the front page of Outlook section, after Scientology sent two goons to my front door of my home in Alrington Virginia. I mailed out several letters, explaining the circumstances and closed my letter with “This is America, isn’t it?”

Then all hell broke loose.

Im the guy holding the Scientology hates Free Speech sign.. 1995, before my hair turned white:

 

 

In 1995 Scientology raided four activists. Tom Klemesrud, Arnie Lerma, Dennis Erlich, and Lawrence Wollersheim and Bob Penny’s FACTNet.org in Colorado claiming  copyright infringement, and trade secret misappropriation.  Scientologist Lawyer Earle Cooley called it copyright terrorism.

Centerfold of December 1995 WIRED Magazine,
alt.scientology.war was the cover story!

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An activist in Holland, Karin Spainke posted the secret materials and was also sued.

Another named Zenon Parnusis, who was another sued, literally wall-papered the bridge between the Swedish Parliament and Swedish High Court with the once secret materials.

In December 1995, I got a call from Detective Thomas Miller CWPD, he told me to look at a web page on the Clearwater Police Department web page. I did, seems the police wanted information about a suspicious death of a scientologist named Lisa McPherson. Being on IRC relay chat at the time,  and  having my hands full with my own court case, ex-member consultations, and fighting back...so I messaged Jeff Jacobsen, who ran with the ball and started Lisamcpherson.org, and became the site for Lisa McPherson’s horrific tale.  He did an outstanding job, organized pickets and protests against scientology.

This is image is from one of those, which I turned into a postcard.
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In 1996 a retired investment banker named Robert Minton, who told me he had been confined in a closet as a child, and was touched by the story of Lisa McPherson, read a story I had posted to the newsgroup about a strange encounter I had two decades prior, and decided to pick up his checkbook and made a donation of $10,000 to FACTnet.org

At this time Scientology was harassing activists all over the world in its quest for silence.

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Mr Minton went on to fund litigation,  help activists, started a corporation, The Lisa McPherson Trust and against my advice, opened an office in Clearwater across the street from their headquarters. He helped hundreds escape scientology.   Won several awards both here and overseas.  After a valiant effort, spending millions, having his children followed to school, and being litigated into a state of shell shock, he retired from the war, exhausted. But only after scientology admitted spending 30 million dollars trying to get rid of him. He passed away in 2009 from a heart attack, and is buried in Ireland.

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15 sec clip from NBC Dateline, Bob and Arnie:
http://www.lermanet.com/audio/bob-arnie2.wmv from 1997

 

Anonymous arrived on the scene in 2008, and this writer, with serious stenosis of several areas of my spine, had to try to walk away, at least for a while, meanwhile, Mr Ortega moved into high gear with his blog pages and current scientology news.

Sometimes perspective is everything.
Google search results for:

“Leah Remini” + scientology 557,000
“David Miscavige” + scientology 280,000
“Robert Minton” + scientology 112,000
“Tony Ortega” +scientology 91,300 results (0.51 seconds)
“Mike Rinder” + scientology 74,000
“Marty Rathbun” + scientology 66,900
“Gerry Armstrong” + scientology 36,700 results
“Nancy Many” + scientology 26,200 results
“Arnie Lerma” + scientology 25,500
“Karen de la Carriere” scientology 23,300
“Pete Griffiths” + scientology 9850
“Gabe Cazares” + scientology 3280
“Karen Pressley” + scientology 2,150 results
“Tom Padgett” + scientology 1080

“asthmatic dwarf” + scientology 900

End notes: From the department of forensic history at Lermanet, Tom Padgett wrote:
THE SCIENTOLOGY WARS! When did they begin? Paulette Cooper’s original “The Scandal Of Scientology” book. David Mayo’s public defection. L Ron’s death. Richard Behar‘s poignant 1991 Time Magazine cover story The Cult Of Greed. The IRS victory in 1993. Long before social media and the current crop of bloggers, there were a few around with some letters after their names leading the charge. In addition to Dr. Singer, Dr. Lifton, etc., and there was Dr. Jolly West. He addressed the nature of the warfare environment from a forensic science approach.

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Get notified when THE BOOK is finished, stay in balance,  and allow yourself to feel good because you threw a little something in the tip jar.    THE TIP JAR

DEPROGRAMMING America

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“The mind, once expanded to the dimensions of larger ideas, never returns to its original size” Oliver Wendell Holmes


“War is the greatest injustice. We are not fighting the culprits. Those who pay, who incite, who use the media to make people turn against each other – this is who we should fight against.” – Alexey Mozgovoy, commander of the “Ghost” brigade, killed May 23, 2015″

In 1999..By chance I met a young Russian man at an esoteric wood supply warehouse . We got to talking. He had escaped the old USSR to come to the USA! He had been here several years.

I asked him: “After all you have been through, to leave your country, and come here in search of the “dream” (The American Dream), tell me, now, how what you see here, compares to what you escaped from???

His answer was stunning:

“Same sheeet, deeefer rent flies”

World Politics Analyzed as a Crime Scene

 When I watched the Berlin wall come down, I knew our time would inevitably come…you cannot arm wrestle a nation the size of Russia, and not lose balance. My problem, as well as my fellow Americans, was we were mentally unable to conceive the depths of evil that psychopathy is capable of and were trapped in the American Dream, a delusion created using the same methods that induce Scientologists to believe Hubbard’s rubbish, only the shore story and stage setting are different.

   Socialism and perhaps communism are not inherently bad for people, they have been demonized and redefined. Communism was used by America as the boogyman just as the Jews were used by Hitler.  Eric Hoffer observed that

“all mass movements need a tangible enemy not just an intangible one.”

Both systems suffer from the same disease as Democracy, that is, corruption. Everything inside the US Congress is for sale. The that cannot be bought will be entrapped by elaborate charades and perhaps a pretty girl who looks years older than she actually is. Democracy is impossible when what “we the people” believe to be true is controlled by a master manipulators beholden to the oligarchs.

And at we have reached a point that functionally, the only crime in America in this 21st century is not having  money.

A Letter to My American Friends  by The Saker

“The entire history of the US is one of endless violence, plunder, hypocrisy, exploitation, imperialism, oppression and wars. Endless wars of aggression. None of them defensive by any stretch of the imagination. That is quite unique in human history. Can you think of a nastier, more bloodthirsty regime? I can’t.”

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Perspective

 

  My grandfather and Mussolini were young hopeful socialists. Boyhood friends from the same mountain province.. Grandfather said socialism meant a government that obeys the will of its people.

  When Mussolini was still a provincial governor, he announced he would use fascism to rebuild a Neo-Roman Empire. Defining fascism as the marriage the state to the corporations. My grandfather was not pleased.

Grandfather hailed from the same province as Mussolini, they were boyhood friends… Both were ardent socialists. Socialism defined as government that serves the needs of ‘We the People’. When Mussolini was a provincial governor, he told grandfather that he would be dictator after the national election. Grandfather plotted to assassinate the then provincial governor. A gendarme bumped his head, and while sleeping, lost his pistol.

But the plan was betrayed, men were rounded up during the night, to be hung at first sun. Mussolini walked grandfather to the dock, directing him to get on a tramp steamer to America, now, because he did not wish to see his boyhood friend hanging from a tree in the morning.

For years I had heard various versions of this story from the Italian side of my family, and assumed, it may have been a fable. Then, after I had reached the age of sixty years, a cousin showed me the pistol that sleeping gendarme misplaced, a Spanish copy of the 1911 police issue colt .38 revolver, deep brown from age…

  Perhaps populism runs in my genes..

Don’t expect something called a TELL A VISION to show you what IS REAL

Corruption and greed is bad for all people, eventually, including,  those who profit  financially from destruction of the host society that fed them.

The word Democracy becomes a theatrical stage decoration for totalism when a handful of fat cats control what “we the people” believe to be true, and capitalism without humanity builds bombs for the profit. It’s “just business”, turning human beings into spreadsheet entries that may be  deleted to balance the books.. sometimes after taking their kidneys for resale.

  Slavery became an equal opportunity employer, hidden in plain sight when corporations gained person-hood.

  The bigger stick, leads to the bigger knife. then bigger gun, and then the biggest bombs, until the earth lays shattered, and we are all Palestinians in what started out, as  a real estate investment.   Meanwhile the words get redefined, while main stream media and social media are turned into a living Hollywood Babylon..a 21st century freak show,

  You are free in America to argue about anything, even waste your time on whether or not the earth is flat, which,  incidentally, uses the same methods that Hubbard used to make Dianetics “persuasive” to induce belief in that delusion for profit. But never mention the elephants in the room, like AIPAC, The Israeli Lobby, and the universal, multinational  cult of psychopathy.

  The cult of psychopathy, is where anything goes. Whose business model is “Profit at any cost in induced human misery.”

Aleister Crowley’s mantra: Do As Thou Whilst is the Whole of the Law, turns pedophilia into after dinner theater while using it as a tool for enforced obedience by blackmail. Hubbard accomplished the same feat by calling children “big thetans in little bodies.”

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I believe that “The Greatest Evil”  are those who profit from intentionally induced suffering and misery, while they themselves, are producing nothing.

In Dante’s Inferno, the lowest depths of hell were reserved for fraud.

“In Dante Alighieri‘s Inferno, part of the Divine Comedy, Malebolge is the eighth circle of Hell. Roughly translated from Italian, Malebolge means “evil ditches”. Malebolge is a large, funnel-shaped cavern, itself divided into ten concentric circular trenches or ditches. Each trench is called a bolgia (Italian for “pouch” or “ditch”). Long causeway bridges run from the outer circumference of Malebolge to its center, pictured as spokes on a wheel. At the center of Malebolge is the ninth and final circle of hell.

In Dante’s version of hell, categories of sin are punished in different circles, with the depth of the circle (and placement within that circle) symbolic of the amount of punishment to be inflicted. Sinners placed in the upper circles of hell are given relatively minor punishments, while sinners in the depths of hell endure far greater torments. As the eighth of nine circles, Malebolge is one of the worst places in hell to be. In it, sinners guilty of “simple” fraud are punished (that is, fraud that is committed without particularly malicious intent, whereas Malicious or “compound” fraud — fraud that goes against bond of love, blood, honor, or the bond of hospitality — would be punished in the ninth circle). Sinners of this category include counterfeiters, hypocrites, grafters, seducers, sorcerers and simonists.”

simonists: The buying or selling of ecclesiastical offices or of indulgences or other spiritual things. [Middle English simonie, from Old French, from Late Latin simōnia, after Simon Magus, a sorcerer who tried to buy spiritual powers from the Apostle Peter (Acts 8:9-24).

Arnie Lerma.
And what should we do? One of the designers of these techniques in 1943, was a psychologist for OSS, said that these methods to control what a man believes to be true would continue to be effective until the victims became familiar with the methods being used upon them.  Those methods I have come to recognize and found words to explain are the contents of these blog pages.
More on the cult of psychopathy here: https://www.quora.com/Is-Hillary-Clinton-a-Scientologist and here ponerology.com



Conversation with Julia:

READ enough  links for supporting cites if you feel “incredulous” or “psychological denial” is noted. Psychological denial is okay, it is your mind’s way of protecting itself from overload, and disassociation when confronted by truth that is just too uncomfortable to consider, to contemplate. If so, take a break, bookmark the page, walk away, but come back when ready for more. One set of materials (note2) that I encountered in 2007, induced me to walk away and smell flowers for over a year..

Arnie: READ:  THIS-IS-THE-PLAN

Julia: Wow, Arnaldo! So THAT’s the plan.

Arnie: It makes the entire theatrical make sense without going into inter-dimensional woo.

Julia:  Arnie. And they did tell us their plan, after all. They wrote it in stone. (See Georgia Guidestones)

Arnie: YES! However they didn’t say how they would get there from here, and if enough people can conclude soon enough, that the deep state, and most, but not all, (see note1)  1/10th of 1 %’rs  have literally been AT WAR with WE THE PEOPLE since the deep state assassinated JFK, the better chance WE THE PEOPLE will have to survive.

The immediate need is to get the US out of Syria including all those CIA/DIA/MI6 spec ops and Saudi hired Blackrock type mercenaries, and if they refuse to stand down forever, leave the Israelis and Saddam’s old Sunni psychopaths there and then kill them off, This could be done with an infrastructure rebuilding plan to drive the refugees back to their homelands, for jobs rebuilding their towns and villages and cleaning up the mess. A mess that was made for THE PROFIT.  All this must be done in time to prevent the same guys that did 911 to corner Mr. Putin, who truly does care about his people, into WWIII.

That recent History channel show on the “Drug War” tells the truth. I was amazed! They (US Deep state and Nixon)  knew back then that pot was harmless, they created the drug war for their profit, and profits for the prison industrial complex, and as a weapon to destroy the black civil rights movement and hippie/peace anti-war movements.

American’s haven’t stopped a war since Vietnam, find out why..

This is just one of their ‘tricks’ to accomplish this. and they were successful. A friend, Mr. John Potash has a detailed book about this:

Drugs as Weapons Against Us: The CIA’s Murderous Targeting of SDS, Panthers, Hendrix, Lennon, Cobain, Tupac, and Other Leftists - LINK

Outline of Gary Webb’s research on Zerohedge (it is worse than you think (note5))

I update that page THE PLAN,  when I encounter new reports… see this Saker report on head of ISIS being killed.

I did the same thing for the subject of disinformation, media manipulation, forum sliding, direction of attention in media and social media and collected all the source links on those methods that I encountered including the evidence of those hired to use them:

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https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/mainstream-lies-and-internet-trolls/
Links to a page of enough citations for convince a scientologist..

These pages are sort of Internet Tour Guide pages to address in a persuasive manner each subject or in the case of covert hypnosis, each METHOD and with links to source material for those who still doubt. This way those that know a lot can read my page and learn new relationships quickly. Those that don’t know as much will need read more links. Those that know little, may have to read them all, and more, or go elsewhere to something soft and fluffy…

These aren’t crafted as news blogs to get hits and traffic, but Topic Specific reading rooms to attempt to drive a key point all the way home…past the wall of incredulity.

Only small crimes need be secret, the big ones are protected by incredulity!!

This one exposes the Kabbalist magic behind Israel’s success in information warfare, which was explained by Confucious, 2500 years ago,

Fundamental DEPROGRAMMING Techniques are universal, and not just for “cults”. The understanding you gain by becoming familiar with the techniques of covert manipulation, covert hypnosis, suggestion, implication, described on these pages and others linked to them,  can also be used to end the Flat Earth psy-op sweeping the globe like Pokemon did when those same kids were younger.

Flat Earth IS Dianetics - the same methods, with a different shore story and stage setting, or framing.

Like scissors cuts paper, perspective cuts framing.

I learned  deprogramming techniques,  by deconstructing scientology’s methods for 25 years. I used what I learned  to discover the classified Mossad/CIA/MI6 methods being used by Hubbard. These methods become visible,  if you know enough about the subject of covert hypnosis… and then watch a little TV… (heh)

We don’t have but a few of the oldest of the CIA’s internal documents and studies about how to do these things. (More to follow shortly, google “The KUBARK Interrogation Manual” )

We do, however, have many of scientology’s! Here is one of them, called OPERATIONS PLANNING. One of the founding member’s of the first anti-cult group in America, before she passed away, told me that this one document, which was siezed by Federal Agents in the 1977 raids on scientology’s headquarters in Los Angeles was the most important document for activists to read. It describes what many of you have endured for decades. You need to read this over and over again, and get your friends to read it. You will now understand a bit of the foundation of the deep state’s operations to induce you to do nothing about the fact they turned Americans into willing slaves for their empire of money and greed., much like Hubbard turned good people into scientologists and staff members willing to sign a contract to work for them for one billion years.

Back to the story..

The most useful discoveries occurred after an expert operative, and the author of many of the words used by scientology on their own webpages used to de-popularize this writer, whose father in law just so happened to be this man,  induced a man named Robert Minton to distrust me.  Mr Robert Minton, then stopped taking my advice. Which is when things started going south for him.. This was a multi-millionaire whose fortune I was previously directly responsible for saving from an elaborate, and unbelievable operation run by scientology’s own intelligence division. (see prior link)

Once you learn any METHOD being used upon you, it stops “working” so well, it stops mesmerizing you, it ceases to stop your thinking, and stops allowing these manipulations to make you quite as suggestible by that method for evermore.

And then truths become visible, as they float to the top of the cesspool of lies that we are surrounded by.

Julia:  Arnie, As I’ve mentioned before, I have had clinical hypnotherapy to kind of ‘deprogram’ me. It worked ….. now I don’t have any friends. 😀 Well, I detached myself from the old ones that stood in the way of my finding the truth.

Arnie: LOL too funny, I can appreciate what you mean !! It explains why you easily understand what I’m going on about..and are willing think of the possibilities..

It all comes down to WHOM is running your trance, organized psychopaths creating world conflict for profit at humanity’s expense or merely a dead and bad science fiction writer stealing your wallet and children.  And then if you are running your trance, how much do you know about what works and doesn’t work in that field, as well as the real limitations?

In Malayasian culture, people know about trance. A housewife will use self hypnosis to make doing mundane tasks less tedious. Western Culture is another thing, it seems that in the winter of 1949/1950 that expert stage hypnotist Ralph Slater, played Carnegie Hall seven times!  The next spring Hubbard’s Dianetics was published, and hypnotism begins disappearing from the American psyche… replaced by NLP, which on first glance appears to be a way to train people in methods of manipulation without giving away the stuff that is now classified SECRET, after being weaponized by Dr George Estabrooks, the Psychologist for OSS in 1943 who stated that these methods of covert manipulation would continue to be effective until such time that their targets became familiar with the methods being used upon them.

COMPLEXITY  AS A MEANS TO CONCEAL FRAUD

Complexity alone is a method. When you walk into a scientology book store, you see all those books, rapes, pamphlets. Walls filled with this stuff. This induces an auto-suggestion. It suggests to you that “There just must be something there, something to it” Yes there is, but it is not the shore story Hubbard wrote to avoid, “like a child telling a lies” telling you the simple truth, that he is using hypnosis. If you knew that, you would need to read all his long winded science fiction stories that he wrote to explain the simple truth. You are asked to duplicate precisely the routines he describes. And again, you must, for it to ‘work’ because you don’t know what you are really doing..this is covered elsewhere on this blog.

AMERICAN DREAM

And this is why I write. Use my material as a guide, and you  can free your mind and begin freeing minds all around you.

But it sure is difficult to explain to zombies..who are asking the wrong questions like “Why am I eating all the time”…(drool)…

The “American Dream” is identical in pattern to Hubbard’s Engrams, reactive mind, and XENU and the body thetans rubbish.. Both are imaginary (hypnotic) role playing games, pursued for profit, and everything ‘looks’ great, as long as you do not see the true cost in induced death, suffering and misery.

Americans, for the most part, are in every bit a pernicious cult as the victims of scientology. The METHODS being used are the same, the authors may even be the same, the shore stories and stage settings differ, the intent is the same but the victims are hidden where Americans don’t see them,  rarely displayed on TV, and always blamed upon an innocent party.

PROFIT  at any cost in induced human suffering, death and misery.

My proof it is “the same old sofa, but with new upholstery”,(note3) yet again is that same deprogramming methods work on both!!

This realization summarizes my hope, to somehow turn the sow’s ear of scientology into something of value. This is the lesson of scientology for survivors of scientology, to become the deprogrammers of the American Dream, aiming toward a renaissance of thinking, of course after a period of re-growth, reconciliation and healing - and IF we can prevent WWIII.(note1)

Giordano Bruno tried this in the 16th century, however having escaped being burned at the stake as he was in 1601, and is isn’t as though they have tried , having admitted that by 1996 they had spent 1,740,000 trying to get rid of me.

Decide whether it is worth your time to see what Scientology thought was so essential to  to make dissapear, Orwellian style., and you can help make this handful of smoking tinders hot enough and then strike enough fire in the minds of my fellow men, while we still have time to do so.

Thanks for reading,
Arnie Lerma

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https://arnielerma.quora.com/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/deprogramming/
http://www.lermanet.com

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Note1: Multillionaire Mr Robert Minton, who wrote his first check to the expose scientology  because of a story I told from years ago, on a usenet group alt.religion.scientology in 1995, AND after being covertly influenced to no longer heed my counsels, told me, in the last conversation we had before he died of a heart attack, that he had no regrets except for one.. I asked him, “And what was that?”
He said, “I regret that I ever stopping taking your advice.”  “Bio Lerma LINK),
amd Mike Rinder wrote: “At some point the whole story of Minton will be told. It’s not quite as its been portrayed, and I was the person who dealt with him and in the end we considered one another friends. A man with a bigger heart you will never meet”

Note2: Google LERMANET PAPERCLIP for THIS .rtf file, you must open this in a word processor, there are embedded images, This document is unfinished.
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Pardon my scribbles at the end which contain error, as I simply had to turn my head away for a few years  time, and have never looked at this since.  Should you decide to read this file, you will understand why.
Note3: https://www.quora.com/Are-we-really-on-the-brink-of-WWIII
Note4: https://www.quora.com/Scientology-critics-Have-you-been-Fair-Gamed/answer/Arnaldo-Lerma.
Note4: 1952 The Journal of Hypnotism describes Hubbard’s DIANETICS with that one-liner.. “the same old sofa” is hypnosis.
Note5: a slogan from expose-the-fraud-of-scientology pickets in 1990’s.

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Get notified when THE BOOK is finished, stay in balance,  and allow yourself to feel good because you threw a little something in the tip jar.    THE TIP JAR

Remote Viewing and Scientology

A download of material I have explained to people in private chat and posted bits of over the years, but never posted in total:

In Ingo Swann’s biography, at least in a version that was once on the web, he said
“I never considered myself a scientologist” He went on to explain that at that time they were trying anything and everything, including scientology, in an effort to catch up with the Russians..(note)

In 2008 I pulled a 2″ stack of papers from the National Archives, that were titled Stanford RV Protocols. I examined the documents carefully, and was unable to find anything even remotely scientological…nothing, zilch… Yes I was surprised.. but not as surprised as I might be had I not read a great deal about hypnosis.

It turned out that psychic events are routinely associated with hypnosis and induced trance states . One study, sorry I forgot the name, at a University, they attempted to hypnotize a person at a distance. The researchers noted strange effects , such as, on one occasion, instead of hypnotizing the intended target who was in an office at the end of the same hallway from the hypnotist, they found that they had hypnotized  a secretary in an adjacent office in line from where they were sitting.

I now believe that because scientology routines are create a suggestible hypnotic state, that Psi events might manifgst. However, this is not because of scientology, but because they are associated with hypnotism…and manifested in spite of scientology.

I also believe that there existed a plan,  to intentionally make scientology be perceived as a  useful tool for remote viewing, as a motive to insert covert intelligence gathering agents (those whose loyalties were controlled by scientology)  into foreign countries RV programs and perhaps to boobytrap those programs to be less effective, because it was the hypnosis not the scientology that “worked”, and in scientology, it is also the hypnosis that “works”.

In the book “Psychic Warrior” by an ex military RV guy, named David Morehouse, (Note2) he describes the protocols used at Ft Meade’s RV program, located across the Baltimore Washington Parkway from the NSA. His description of ‘cool down tapes” and more led me to conclude that he was using taped meditation protocols created by the same man that first coined the phrase “Out of Body Experience”, as “OBE:, Mr Robert Monroe. Robert Monroe founded the Monroe Institute in Faber Virginia outside of Charlottesville.  Monroe’s technology of binaural beats, emulates Tibetan meditation methods.  Meditation done while seated between two of those temple bells. The bells are tuned a few cycles per second different in frequency. When you site between the bells, and whack them both, you get the binuaral beat difference which apparently stimulates the same beat in brain wave frequencies. (Note3)  His technique provides what the Tibetan monks were seeking, when they would travel hundreds of miles from monastery to monastery to meditate in front of different sets of bells.. Using Monroe’s tapes one may do this without leaving your home!(Note 4)

Monroe’s tapes create trance. The more advanced tapes create the deepest trances. However, unlike conventional scientology, Robert Monroe was not a psychopath trying to steal your wallet like Hubbard. Which is why Hubbard, called the subconscious by both of the terms: Reactive Mind AND the Bank, because it made getting money out of your Bank account, easy. (note 5)

Robert Monroe uses some light suggestions and conditioning to make the experience safe, (yes Alice, there are things that go bump in the night) and most importantly, to return complete control of your trance, of your own sub-conscious to you and to you only. (note6)

Arnie Lerma

Note1: In Ingo’s published book, not the bio that I read online years ago,  he described a meeting with a deep state figure who asked him to RV a location on the moon. That man asked Ingo whether he had read Mastery, by George Leonard (Verbal and thinking Aikido) see http://www.lermanet.com/books/lermanet-library.htm

Note2: Morehouse recounts being gaslighted, targeted to an extent and beyond, that of being targeted by scientology. Some of what I endured is outlined HERE.
Morehouse felt forced to move overseas to escape it, thus, I believe his story has more veracity because he was targeted so vigorously.

Note3: See Secrets of the E-Meter

Note4: See Monroe Institute 

Note5: See Covert Methods used in Scientology

Note6:  I was introduced to Robert Monroe’s work by an ex-scientologist that I knew when I was a teen ager in the 1960’s  and was first fooled by Hubbard’s persuasion and covert hypnotic methods, as he was at the time. A gentle giant of a man named Joe Harrington. It was Joe that first posted the XENU story of OTIII and the rest of the OT Levels to the internet, anonymously using anonymous remailers. It was also Joe Harrington that mailed me the court record that got me sued in 1995 in Federal Court by scientology.  These tidbits are from his deathbed confession to his wife Brigitta, also an ex-scientologist,  who relayed them to me. I have probably done a couple thousand hours of Monroe’s hemi-sync and found it extremely useful for relaxation during the madness of the lawsuit, and the decades of strangeness that ensued after myself and two others refused a 9-12 million dollar offer from scientology in exchange for silence and sealing the documents of the cases..    Some ex-members, like Joe Harrington mentioned above, have found Monroe’s materials useful for recovery. The most important factor of meditation to recovery is described in this Quora answer.

Thank you for reading,

Arnie Lerma
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“The New Word” by Allen Upward - Scientology (c) 1908

“In 1938 I codified certain axioms and phenomena into what I called ‘Scientology.’“  said L Ron Hubbard in  the pre-1978 Red “Tech” Volumes on page 3.


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“This is not science, but only scientology. It is language. It is the magic lullabye in which the shapes of things melt and reshape themselves forever”

“And unhappily, Scientology is often mistaken for science as theology is for worship”

“We distinguished between science and scientology”

In 2008 an anon sent me this link from an ebay book sale:

This text ran on ebay to sell this book item #130089204681
Feb 1 2008
First use of the word 'Scientology' in Print Anywhere!
The New Word
by Allen Upward
(corresponding memeber of the Parnassus Philological Society, Athens)
1908 London - Second Edition (First Edition was published 
anonymously - this listed edition was the first one published under Allen Upward's name)
320 pages
Aside from being a very fascinating book in its own rite, 
this book contains the first coining of the word 'Scientology' 
in print.  Allen Upward was quite the wordsmith and if 
you read him you will see that he is always creatively 
coining words to fit his meaning.  That L. Ron Hubbard 
used the word 'Scientology' for his practical religious 
philosophy in 1952 is what really makes this book 
interesting.  L. Ron Hubbard was always coining a word 
or two himself to make his work easier to understand.  
 There are three usages of 
'Scientology' in this book and they occur on pages 139, 149 & 156.
Contents:
   1. The Riddle
   2. Psychology: The Personal Equation
   3. Etymology: The Castle in the Air
   4. Lexicography: The Play upon words
   5. Metaphysics: The house of cards
   6. Altruism: The Face in the looking-glass
   7. Materialism: the shape
   8. Physics: the knot
   9. Dynamics: the demon in the stone
  10. Chemistry: the man in the crumb
  11. Mathematics: the conjuring trick
  12. Logic: the cipher
  13. Ontology: the end
  14. Metastrophe: the magic crystal
  15. Biology: the elf
  16. Theology: the painted window
  17. Exegetics: the forbidden fruit
  18. Pathology: the pyramid
  19. Astrology: the eclipse
  20. Ethics: the book of etiquette
  21. The Heir
Please see picture - this is my only copy of this rare 1908  
second edition from England 
- I have never run across another copy of this edition.

Images of the use of the word Scientology with means pseudoscience!

Here are pages from the book that the sellor was gracious enough to send to this writer when i explain I owned “Lermanet.com Exposing the CON since 1993”

Page 139
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Page 149
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Page 156

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The first use of the word scientology, as used in 1908, is to have the meaning of pseudo-science.

If you believe in Hubbard, here is one more proof that man never had an original idea in his life.

On Dec 5th 1995, in RTC vs Lerma, scientology lost it’s trade secret claims in US Federal Court.  I wish we had this book back then. The good thing is that those coming after we early warriors, now have it.

Perhaps it is time to learn the definition of fraud from Black’s Law Dictionary:

Fraud: An intentional perversion of the truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing or to surrender a legal right; a false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words ot conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal inquiry; anything calculated to deceive, whether by a single act or combination, or by suppression of truth, or suggestion of what is false, whether it be by direct falsehood or innuendo, by speech or silence, word of mouth, or look or gesture; fraud comprises all acts, omissions, and concealments involving a branch of legal or equitable duty and resulting in damage to another.

Sidebar: In his book Complicity: Ethics and Law for a Collective Age, Christopher Kutz suggests that marginally effective participants in a collective harm are accountable for the victim’s suffering, “not because of the individual differences they make, but because their intentional participation in a collective endeavour directly links them to the consequences of that endeavour.”

 

David Miscavige & the King of the Gypsies

When dealing with elaborate frauds, context is everything. Those new to my screeds should google Arnie Lerma +xenu and read for a while to provide context. At minimum you need to have read these two articles one in the Washington Post, the other NY Newsday  for this blog entry to have proper context.  Christmas Day article 1994 LINK,  and the August Raid LINK

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It was winter 1996/1997, I’d had a lot of publicity from RTC vs Lerma, the Federal case that authenticated “XENU” as the real deal…

A gentlemen called and said he was a journalist from Canada and just happened to be in town and wanted to meet with me, after he had read about my efforts in the newspaper and wanted to speak to me. I said “fine” as I was most curious and I enjoy meeting and talking with intelligent and/or extraordinary character, and as I had met with dozens of journalists by now and we agreed to meet at a Gin Mill on the west side of 19th street NW between M Street and K Street in the club district south of Dupont Circle.

I walked in and saw a fellow sitting alone at a table for two, and he looked up, saw me and waved me over.

“The King of the Gypsies”

He introduced himself, saying his name was Ian Hancock, this Ian Hancock.

He introduced himself and said he was considered by some to be “The King of the Gypsies” He told me that President Bill Clinton had made him an honorary ambassador to the United Nations for the Romani in America, and had given him a nice plaque to hang on the wall. At the time I thought this was rather impressive, as if to convey that his words had a certain authority.  I had previously met with party leaders of Germany’s Parliament including Rennate Rennabach ans Ursurla Caberta at the Freidrich Ebert Stiftung Foundation to advise them on how to best deal with the Scientology problem, tried my hand at lobbying on Capitol Hill for the anti-scientology cause, and being born and raised in Washington DC met my share of VIPs. My electronics business had serviced the needs of Wonderman, and the Crown Prince of Iran, so perhaps I was not quite as impressed with this gentleman’s authority as others might have been,..  anyway, back to this strange tale.

Mr Ian Hancock then told me a story:

The Death of John McMaster

He said was in the U.K. and had interviewed a once famous celebrity $cientologist named John McMaster* .  Jon McMaster was a dapper and eloquent charismatic speaker in the Scientology movement in the 1960’s.

Mr Hancock said that he interviewed John McMaster in a “Manchester flop house” shortly before he passed away.  He claimed that Mr McMaster told him that when he was St Hill Manor, that Hubbard would taunt him about  being gay, and on one occassion when Hubbard knocked on his door, Hubbard was standing the naked, wearing stockings and a garter belt, and pranced around the room after he came in. Quite a story, I was somewhat awed.

After describing details in this incident in lurid detail  he then described the death bed scene:

“John McMaster lay in his bed dying, his room was filled with dead flowers.”

Then,  Mr Hancock  said that it would better if I criticized L. Ron Hubbard instead of David Miscavige.(see note3)  As the conversation continued he restated the general idea that it would be better to be critical of “Ron” instead of “Miscavige”.  After each restatement he would pause, and I noted he seemed to be watching me intently, and he would say:

“BECAUSE DEAD MEN CAN’T SUE”

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The implication was unmistakable: I can’t be sued by Hubbard for saying he was a rat-bastard because he is dead, but I could be sued by David Miscavige.

It was apparent to me that he was chatting me up on behalf of David Miscavige(see note2).. leaning on me to not criticize Mr Miscavige, and instead criticize Mr. Hubbard. And using some kind of persuasion techniques to accomplish this. At the time of this meeting I had not yet begun my research into covert methods of persuasion(Note2), all I knew was that this was a strange meeting.

Why was “The King of the Gypsies” being a water boy for David Miscavige?

And.. just how deep does this particular rabbit hole go??

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Note:  Hubbard was the Founder of scientology and David Miscavige used despicable means to take complete control of the scientology corporate structure after Hubbard’s death in 1986. Here is ONE example Hubbard appointed a gal to be the Director of CST, for LIFE. CST is the corporate structure that owns the copyrights and licenses them to the local scientology organizations for a commission fee on their income. Scientologists will note that the copyright notice in their books says “Copyright held by RTC”  held.. not Owned.. CST OWNS them. CST is the big kahuna of the Scientology empire of lies.

This gal had lifetime dream. Her dream job was to manage a horse farm in New Zealand. Well wouldn’t you know,  David Miscavige knew about this girls dream, and arranged everything. To the gal it was a serendipitous opportunity, perhaps a gift from God, when a man she had chanced to cross paths with said that he needed a manager for his beautiful horse farm in New Zealand. The girl then did what any normal person would do, she jumped at this opportunity. Giving up her appointment from L Ron Hubbard himself, as The Director for LIFE of CST.

With the Hubbard appointed-for-life director out of the way, David Miscavige was free to move in… Source: Ex Scientology Office of Special Affairs lawyer Joseph Vannier’s book “Arrows in the Dark”

Consider the efforts taken to demonize him, and implication of the details above…
see image halfway down this page LINK

Note2: Those who have read my other pages may recognize that The King of the Gypsies was trying to hypnotize me…giving me a direct suggestion, to not criticize David Miscavige.

He combined story telling, with AUTHORITATIVE SUGGESTION, HEAVY EMOTIONAL CONTENT, REPETITION,  DIRECT SUGGESTION, - the Shock and Awe method

The name of the METHOD I believe might have been leaked by George Bush..as he likely had been shown the method, then said it on TV, It is called Shock and Awe.

Then you tell him an enormous TRUTH… such as, there is a breakaway ‘civilization’ and the US has a colony on Mars and those black triangles are US, using anti gravity. Then you show him some pictures… Staff lists… etc..

-or- the world is going to end in 180 days… or three buildings were destroyed in Manhattan by terrorists….

At this point thinking has been stopped, he is in shock and awe!

When thinking stops the door to the subconscious is left unguarded..

Then you tell him the suggestion you want him to believe to be true.

“Anything said to a hypnotized subject is true for them” said the father of weaponized hypnosis, Dr. George Estabrooks in 1943

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Incidentally, this was also one of the techniques Hubbard used for OT level III… Xenu and the Wall of Fire…

Note3:  When David Miscavige was first in the CMO, Commodores Messenger Organization, he was young, short, and had and still has asthma. He would lean against the railing, cupping his hands to hide his use of an inhaler. At that time Suzette Hubbard was the CMO boss, and she gave him the nickname “The Asthmatic Dwarf” which is what he was referred to behind his back.  The phrase is (c) Suzette Hubbard.

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It has been noted that before his rise to power, that David Miscavige appeared to have some sort of influence with Hubbard, the bottom of this page just might explain why. LINK

Thank you for reading all the way to the end, in this tl:dr age, it is encouraging. There is an enormous amount of data that must be read and thoroughly digested to grasp the enormity of the fraud called Scientology, as well as the implications. please send this link to recovering scientologists both as a chuckle and insight into just how far the Asthmatic Dwarf’s Empire will go to get what they want, and make your dreams come true.

After meeting with DM who had just walked out of the office about an article in George Magazine critical of his cult,. JFK Jr.  was heard to remark:

“What a nasty piece of work”

 

Thanks Expressed

“They are but beggars that can count their worth” Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act 2 Scene 5

The following are a fraction of the notes and “thank you”s I have received over the years. The larger part  lost in disk crashes. They are not placed in any order, last names, and emails have been deleted. If anyone recognizes one of their comments and wishes it deleted contact me. If you want me to use your full name, likewise, let me know. If anyone wants to add one, email me, or use the comment function.

Dear Mr. Lerma,
Your lifetime of work exposing the mind-control cult of L Ron Hubbard is a body of work to be most proud of. I personally hold you in the highest esteem with a respect that is well earned. You Sir have a big heart, and you have followed it.

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Arnie, thanks for all you did and sacrificed to expose the Co$ over the years, A&E has done a great disservice to you by not having you as a major participant in their series.
All the best,  B.P.

“Well, you have helped lots of people see the truth, and no matter if you think your story is this or that. You have already helped more people than you can ever imagine. I have followed your story off and on for several decades, and what you have done is monumental. I think when it is all said and done, the next generation can look back on your legacy, and see that there was someone who stood up to those bastards and despite the dangers, stood their ground, and educated one hell of a lot of people. As xxx would say, ‘you are a true BALL BUSTER.” from anon.

Мирьяна Михайловна Thanks, Arnie! I would still be in a lot of darkness if it was not for you….!

Anon: “When I left the cult I had no idea that others had left before me. I just knew I had to get away. I had no one to talk to about my experiences and I didn’t know what to do next. Then I found Arnie’s site and I never looked back.”

Anon:”His site (content) has helped me to wake up on $cientology true nature. ”

From: Janet
Email: xxxxxx@gmail.com
Comment: I just want to thank you, Arnie, for all of your hard work and dedication to truth. It is extremely valuable. You are a beautiful person!
Time: July 24, 2016 at 2:47 pm
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From: Donna xxxxxxxx

Arnie, You guys have hit the nails of $cientology’s coffin smack on the head! The tape was great. I haven’t had time to read this whole thread but what I have read really makes sense and explains a lot. Thanks for the insight.  Donna

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From: Patti xxxxxxxx Arnie is my hero. I am forever indebted to him.

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Arnie,

I just watched the video interview of you on your website. It was inspirational. This compliment is not a rhetorical gimmick…it is sincerely given. Have a great weekend.

Jim

James A. xxxxxxx Ph.D.

Professor of Christian Thought and Ethics

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Sara xxxxxxx

well, you helped me tremendously, so thank you. And if you’re ever in the UK, give me a call. All the best, Sara

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“A one-man wrecking ball” Alan C Walters, Clear #8
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Nick Uncle Sam:

Thanks for the reply! I am a big fan of yours and wish to “thank you” for all your work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, thank you sir, for all you do. Jim xxxxxxxx IBM Exec retired

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Reinhard xxxxxxx, Graz, Austria ·

all the best for you and your lovely wife. thank you for your excellent explanations and background insights of all things scientology and even more things life and fun. please do never stop to enlighten so many people all over the world. thank you.

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Gizmo:

Arnie, Thank you. Sincerely thank you !

That is a HUGE GIANT MONSTER piece of the puzzle !

I’d heard about Abreactive Therapy ( & guided imagery ) but could not ever make any sense out of Hubbard’s hatred of psychiatry & psychology. Hubbard was a proven hack writer of sci-fi but everything else in his life was bumbling around bouncing here & there - all in a sudden while blind & crippled he pulls out of his hat dianetics? Hmm.I do appreciate what you have made public !

Arnie, you remain standing while the remaining scn’gists scurry to find a rock to hid under. They’ll remember you long after they have been forgotten.

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I_Hate_Co$

Arnie,

This is brilliant, and thank you so much sharing. I just recently re-joined this community, although I was never really IN it before because I stayed on the edges of Co$ the last 5 years just hoping my ex-wife would wake up one day and for the sake of our son, we could leave this nightmare behind. Sadly, it hasn’t happened, but everyone here has been extremely helpful and encouraging and my hope is that with our persistent efforts to keep people coming forward, within 5 years I just might have a chance of giving my son a family again. It’s a pipe dream, but it keeps me going.

Your website gave me the courage to recently get back a sum of money from the Co$ by doing what I had to to get it, rather than being afraid of a fair game retaliation

Thanks for everything you’ve done. Your efforts do not go unnoticed and I sincerely appreciate your sacrifices.

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Hi Arnie,

I got a lotta respect for you. My favorite anecdote is where you asked the lawyer if he was trying to make you perjure yourself. I’ve done some digging into things in my time and one turned up Jim. Humble’s mms - I got a roasting over that on the board, but I’m still right.

You have a lot to share Arnie. Stay on target

Hi from Sydney, Australia from a never-in.

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Arnie Lerma, this is compelling research. Thanks for bringing forward this awareness of Erickson and the NLP connection. It is astonishing to remember the number of intelligent people taken in by this simple technique. I can see the connection in my personal experience; only the words and labels for each ‘grade’ were different, giving people some distraction to focus upon while the underlying hypnotic control did its damage. One technique, learned and applied consistently. Hans Hansen

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Jane xxxxxxx: Yes! I get it and Thank you! I understand how I got in the trap…saw the insanity in 82 but continued with field groups for awhile but never till now with your info understood my wins…..was in a trance….wow! If I see you post I READ IT!

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Eric A.

When I joined Scientology the demonic cult I had faith before I joined I was at peace with my self,they tried to strip it all out of me,when I left I almost suffered a psychotic break,but my faith and strong will got my threw,the fucking demonic cult even. Tried to crack my soul,now I see the light ,I’m back were I was 20 again,I’ll never stop. Exposing the demonic cult,all the best

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You Arnaldo ,you. Are one that helped me wake up, it took me awhile to trust you but in the end the truth hurts ,Thank you very. Much for saving my life and my children’s life too, I hope you understand how you helped us Good XXXX

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Thanks Arnie. Yours was one of the first websites I visited when I finally left. I had a memory of forwarding a postcard with the word “lermanet” on it to OSA when I was on post. I figured that was as good a place as any to start.

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When I first saw these stages I thought maybe not everyone goes through ALL the stages. I could see getting through a few of them. But before long, I found myself experiencing each of them and ALL of them.

It all sure looks different from the outside………….

Thanks again.

xxxxx

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Cheryl xxxxxxxxt Arnie once by accident in DC. This was before I actually knew who he was . I’ll tell ya the story when I see ya. He was the catalyst for me opening my eyes and escaping. . Would love to give him a hug and say thank you one day.

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(Name deleted by request Letter) Arnie - Glad it made it safe. it is the least I can do for all you have done. Seriously dude - your work is just amazing! I don’t think you know how much you have helped people like me understand this mind fuck. It lessened the amount of suffering I had to endure. I hope YOU FEEL GOOD!

($100 bill enclosed June 2014)

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Once upon a time, not that long ago, I was lost. I mean really really lost. And Arnie, your guts, your stuff on the internet, helped get me through the long very fucked up scary nights. I remain grateful. Contact me.

Glenda

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Hi Arni, Thanks for writing. I feel I know you. I think I’ve read almost everything that you have written. You really helped me on my way out, Thank you. I have been under the radar since 2008, just waiting for my last kid to wake up. That happened this year. I am declared now so I am celebrating by befriending other SP’s. I woke up in a session….”Who are what is suppressing you?” Yes, it was $cientology that was suppressing me! It was over and I was done! I made it all the way to OTVIII with nothing to show for it~~I wanted the abilities gained that were on the grade chart in the 70’s!!! Oh well, It’s kind of like the Tin Man’s heart~~~~I already had spiritual freedom. Happy New Year to you, Lynn

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Hayley xxxxxx

I have your quote about freeing yourself with truth- ‘slave chains forged of lies….’ on my fridge- been there for a couple of years. Inspiring words that have helped me a great deal. Sending you some artwork reflecting my experience of scientology.Lermanet ha been a vital source of information and support for me as someone who has tried to understand why someone close is still a church member.Some great posts- you are a brave man

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You were one of the first sources I read when I started to wake up to the truth about scientology. Scientologists often don’t like being confronted by those of a high intellect. It scares them and knocks them off their narcissistic pedestals

Lynn Ann xxxxxxxxxxxx

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You’ve done an incalculable amount of good in your years of activism. Thanks for being alive and doing what you did and do. Anon

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6/28, 12:22am

Jeff

Dear Mr Lerma, I am the person Tory Magoo referred to in her video a few days ago and would like to sincerely thank you for the lermanet site and feel that without it I might never have realized that Dianetics and Scientology are false fraudulent subjects and an insidious extreme form of coercive persuasion, after 25 years in the cult with your help (by providing your site) I have been able to come out of it and perceive the practices as hypnotic mind control and realized that I (unknowingly) was in a terrorist cult that has numerous brutal , inhuman crimes and abuses against its members and critics. I would love to get to talk to you both to thank you and share some info on some of the damaging, and I believe not yet generally exposed, details of how the con works. I am on ESMB as ************* and Tory Magoo also has my phone # I don’t know what you would consider the safest/easiest way to contact you, but I am willing to do whatever you would prefer. Thanks

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Cathy xxxxxxxxxxxx

Hello Arnie-I just wanted to stop by and tell you, I have a lot of respect for you when it comes to exposing the crimes of Scientology. After watching the videos with you in them, I am impressed. Well-done….Cathy

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Hi Arnie …. a couple things. 1) I’ve admired what you’ve been doing and promoting for YEARS! Thank you. And I hope you continue.Second: I have a girlfriend who (I think) says she was witness to LRH talking about making a religion in order to make money. I believe her, but don’t want to make a fuss. I read your post of earlier today and decided I’d let you know I heard this “rumor” from someone I trust. But what matter? For me, the who illusion is pretty much gone. (I still agree with, and apply, the factors.) All my best, Robin

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Kalia xxxxx

I just want to say one more thing…back in the late 90’s, when I was most succeptible to the scientology movement, YOUR expose on xenu kept me from going any deeper, and I THANK YOU again, most sincerely, as I am well aware of what may have transpired, prior to my reconnection with uncle joe. THANK YOU so much, you have no idea, the family is so indoctrinated, to some degree, at least. I was able to be spared.

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Cece xxxxxxx

I am sorry that I worked for the church while they were raiding your place Arnaldo. If you need anything pls ask. I owe you. I was at AOLA making money for these type of things. I’m sorry. I can’t read that Alice and W post on FB maybe it’s on your site. I will check. ((Hugs)) (Later this person Paid hosting costs for Lermanet for a year)

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Arnie,

The more you write, the more you reveal, the more I come to appreciate fully in terms of understand and being grateful for all you have done and continue to do that is right and proper in this cause.

You truly are a star!

Roger xxxxxxx

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btw, your “8 steps out” was very helpful for me when I was leaving. I did indeed pretty much go through all of those steps Gene xxxxxxx

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CONVERSATIONS WITH ARNIE…

I have been fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to have several long conversations ( online) with Arnie Lerma . I have read quite a bit on Lermanet.com and seen him on videos as well . I will never try to have 100% agreement with ANYONE ever again after leaving Scientology and learning that individuality should not submit TOTALLY to authority absolutely EVER .

I do agree with Arnie on a great many things and respect his beliefs and privacy regarding such . I think we are in a very small group (that I hope to expand by education) - that hold certain ideas about the nature of and effects caused by Scientology indoctrination .

I know he is very probably the smartest person ( in overall intelligence ) and most well educated about Scientology as both to the history ( including tactics ) and technology ( as to the true nature and harm it causes ) that I have EVER got to know .

I have met a few bright people and- no offense to anybody else - he blows away all the rest - by a lot .

I know some might think this is just because we follow a similar group of theories about the technology (and Hub) and Arnie has helped me countless times and was instrumental in my exit-counseling BUT even seeing all that - I still can not deny that what I see is what I see.

He is just that bright . I used to play chess and could see three moves ahead and could CRUSH guys who can not see more than one or two and they would give up after losing ten times in a row and I could not find anybody else to play and had to give it up .

Arnie is WAY past me in this capacity IN REAL LIFE .

THAT has been , in my opinion , a major factor in his surviving this long as an enemy of Scientology .

Sometimes I get more out of twenty minutes with Arnie than I would from reading a couple books .

And I mean books that are good and contribute in a positive way to my work .

I strongly suggest that if you EVER get a chance to talk with him you take advantage and ask about anything that you need good info on .

He knows about a lot in and out of Scientology so do not limit yourself .

I hope this does not bring you an unwanted deluge Arnie - sorry .

I want everybody to take advantage of what in my opinion is one of the critics greatest and even under-appreciated assets .

Obviously your mileage may vary . We are both not to everyone’s liking .

Jeff

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I appreciate reading his posts about the relationship Scientology has with hypnosis. That is the first time I considered it and it made sense and it brought me to a different and better understanding of WTF happened.

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Cece (Ex SO sent $188 Nov 20

I learned in January this year that long ago my father (David Noel Gangle of Sitka Alaska) had hired a deprogrammer to ‘save me’. Church found out and threatened him and told him to ‘lay off Cece’. My father died 29 yrs ago and I just found this out after leaving 4 years ago. So I’m quiet happy to help you with your site. Thx

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Jeff Brown

you helped me. i used to read your site when i was on the way out of scn and i referred to others who have now gotten out

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Mojo

Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post

You would not be reading this line of text…

And that is my greatest and exact point (in another thread).

Reading ‘you’ has brought ‘me’ enormous satisfaction. And in hindsight I would be willing to suffer the crossing of a great raging river, to meet you.

Darkness, meet Light.

mojo

ps: I doubt you remember but we met one another many years ago (about 7 to be exact) over the telephone wherein I offered to assist you in a project you were working on. I think I helped you a little, but far less than I wish I had. Nonetheless, I savor the experience and love your being.

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Jeanne xxxxxx

Hi Arnie You helped me out in 2002. Thank you. I escaped after 18 years with help from family and LMT and a lot of professional wholesome therapy. I hope you are happy and well. Jeannine

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Re a Star Magazine article: http://www.lermanet.com/reference/Katie-Holmes-American-Media-Complaint.pdf

Legal papers exchanged over a Star Magazine article based on my E-Meter / Endorphin materials here
https://arnielerma.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/secrets-of-the-lie-detector-and-the-scientology-e-meter/?trashed=1&ids=172

A comment by an engineer who actually read through it:

“I love how they fully admit there’s endorphin stimulation and then deny that’s like taking drugs. That is LITERALLY like taking drugs, because many drugs work because they stimulate endorphin release! ”

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